became, i think, more excited about this legend, mr. brubeck, and she came into the room. she was very, very calm, and we gave her a poster. >> yes. >> but, man, when she went home, she just lit up all of the south of france with the stories about meeting dave brubeck. >> mr. cosby, you spent some time with him. what was he like really as a person? >> in the 1950s the music was supposed to be the music of the cool, the cool guys, you know? psychology and smool smooth. that's what he was. he brought it with it and others who know music technically like marselles. hopefully you can get him on to explain to you those -- i mean, dave was really a different kind of player. rhythmically as he was thinking with the cords. he was cool. that's whaefs. cool. >> he broke racial barriers. you talked about that a little bit. what was behind that? what was behind his thinking that he felt. >> as i have said, racism is a waste of time, and people who try to push, it keep it out front because of whae their idiocy happens to be, there are people like dave and others, et cetera, et cetera, louie armstro